Episode 79 · Anthony Mantova · May 3, 2025
Anthony Mantova talks with Scott Hammond about taking over Two Street Music in Old Town, the long history inside that building, and the practical work of keeping a family business going downtown. Along the way, he gets into his family’s dairy roots in Hydesville, the jump from farm life to music retail, and some of the hard-earned ways he’s learned to deal with the realities of running a shop in Eureka. It’s a local conversation about work, place, and sticking with a business long enough to make it your own.
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What this episode covers
- How Anthony and his brothers bought Two Street Music in 2009 and reshaped the store around accessibility and everyday musician needs.
- The layered history of the Old Town building, from early maps and furniture days to a skating rink upstairs and artist studios today.
- Why the store started selling Mantova Foods during COVID and how that side business grew inside a music shop.
- Anthony’s account of dealing with crime, open drug dealing, and homelessness outside a family-oriented downtown business.
- The thinking behind his book *The Merchant Defense Course* and the practical strategies he wrote down for other local merchants.
- Growing up on a Hydesville dairy farm, what that work taught him, and why he originally wanted out of agriculture.
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Scott Hammond: Ladies and gentlemen, friends and neighbors, Scott Hammond of the 100% Humboldt Podcast with my new best friend, my old best friend, Anthony Mantova. Hey, Anthony.
Anthony Mantova: Hey. It's great to be here.
Scott Hammond: Can you hear me okay without headphones?
Anthony Mantova: Man, I got these invisible headphones from Bose.
Scott Hammond: Those are cool.
Anthony Mantova: Paid $499 for them. Available at your local music store.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: Good stuff.
Scott Hammond: What, what-
Anthony Mantova: Very comfy
Scott Hammond: What music store would that be?
Anthony Mantova: That'd be Mantova's Two Street Music.
Scott Hammond: All right. We'll do plenty of shout-outs.
Anthony Mantova: Hell, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Do you guys have a website and stuff?
Anthony Mantova: We do. It's mtsmusic.com.
Scott Hammond: Wow. We're just kinda… And, and by the way, brought to you by- Uh, no, great to have you, so.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, it's good to be here.
Scott Hammond: Go back a couple years.
Anthony Mantova: Many, many years. I think we, uh, first met at B&I.
Scott Hammond: Uh-huh.
Anthony Mantova: And for months and months, I wasn't gonna join B&I until somebody would just buy me a sandwich, and you, Scott Hammond, bought me an incredible Reuben, if I remember right.
Scott Hammond: Wow, okay. I don't remember that, but I'm a very generous individual, so that had to be me.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: So-
Anthony Mantova: Thanks for that
Scott Hammond: … some- sometimes. Remember that, all my, my kids out there.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: So tell us, who are, who are you? What, what do you do, first of all?
Anthony Mantova: Uh, well, I work in, uh, music retail. Uh, my brothers and I bought Mantova's Two Street Music. At the time, of course, it was called Two Street Music.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Started in Old Town, Eureka in 1978.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And we bought it in 2009. And-
Scott Hammond: Oh, 9. Wow
Anthony Mantova: … we bought it from Kip Bradford.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And then 10 years prior to that, he bought it from Russ Krause.
Scott Hammond: Russ Krause, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And of course you know Russ, he has the pawn shop, um, up the street.
Scott Hammond: The biggest one up the street in the world.
Anthony Mantova: Yep, and it has a, a beautiful big gold rock in front of it.
Scott Hammond: Is it-
Anthony Mantova: I always admire that when I drive
Scott Hammond: … is it really made of gold?
Anthony Mantova: You know, I, I've been wanting to go over and chip a little piece and see, but, uh-
Scott Hammond: Just to see
Anthony Mantova: … I don't think it is. But maybe it is. I don't know.
Scott Hammond: You know, it's, it's hard to say.
Anthony Mantova: That'd be cool.
Scott Hammond: So, so I, I'll just come out of the gate and use the prop. So Old Town is right over there on the bay in Humboldt Bay.
Anthony Mantova: That's quite a prop.
Scott Hammond: Yeah, it's quite west. Um-
Anthony Mantova: Very west
Scott Hammond: … very western. And, uh, Old Town is, uh… Well, Old Town's got a colorful history, right, where you're located?
Anthony Mantova: Oh, it's a very colorful history.
Scott Hammond: Tell, tell us more.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Uh, I'm in a building that I believe was started in 1915, even though the other buildings on that block were established before. And I say that just because the old maps of, like, 1900, 1905, 1910 show, like, some chicken coops there and just, like, what looks like a little wheat field.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: So I'm kinda figuring it's about 1915. Kathleen would know if you wanted to ask her. But, uh, it's a really interesting building. Uh, it used to be a furniture store, I believe. Uh, it was the site of, uh, Rendezvous Vending used to store their stuff in there. There was a skating rink on the top floor.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And, uh, I don't really know much about that transition, uh, what happened as it went through those different things, but, uh, 1978, uh, I believe is when Russ started it.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And he was already in the music business space before that.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, he'd actually be a good guest for you, but, uh, he was gigging at the time, and I believe he had a, uh, his first business, I think he started in '75 or '76 up the street.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And they were in a really small one-room deal where I think the, uh, back wall was on wheels. So if he had a lot of inventory, he could push the wall back.
Scott Hammond: He'd move it.
Anthony Mantova: And if he sold a bunch, he could move the wall forward. So it's all about merchandising. It's always about merchandising, you know?
Scott Hammond: It's presentation, man.
Anthony Mantova: Presentation's a huge part of it.
Scott Hammond: Just move that wall. Move… Blow the walls out.
Anthony Mantova: Exactly. So we took over. Uh, Kip had put up a bunch of fake walls because he was just going for kind of a different vibe. Um, we, uh, we tore all the walls down. I think within six months we tore down, like, seven walls in the store.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: So we really opened it up, and we were all about a business model of, uh, a lot of accessories.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: The meat pot- we always said the meat and potatoes of what musicians want.
Scott Hammond: I can't, I can't wait to get my joke in here. Tear down the wall, Mr. Gorbachev.
Anthony Mantova: There it is.
Scott Hammond: Mr.-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … Mantova.
Anthony Mantova: Exactly right. But it was a really good move, and we've always had that, uh, focus on moving a lot of accessories-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … and just making sure that we're viable to as many people as possible.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Not just in Humboldt, but up and down the highway, uh, from Portland to San Jose. We've always had that focus, and everything kinda stems from
Anthony Mantova: that.
Scott Hammond: So would a lot of traveling musicians pop in and-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, a ton
Scott Hammond: … first-name basis?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, first-name basis with a lot of them. Uh, I have an incredible memory that, um, I worked on getting, and so I remember things five, six, 10 years back. And so when they come in, I remember them. I remember what they did.
Scott Hammond: Oh?
Anthony Mantova: A conversation we had. I'm really good about that.
Scott Hammond: Do you remember the Reuben sandwich I bought you to get you into B&I?
Anthony Mantova: That's why I'm here.
Scott Hammond: Oh. B- B&I-
Anthony Mantova: I only go where I'm fed, obviously.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: I mean, look at me, right?
Scott Hammond: Look at… Those-
Anthony Mantova: You don't get 300 pounds by eating, uh, sushi or something.
Scott Hammond: There could, there could be some Dick Taylor choc-
Anthony Mantova: Oh my goodness gracious me
Scott Hammond: … chocolate in this. And Tanzania-
Anthony Mantova: That's the, uh-
Scott Hammond: I'm gonna eat that one.
Anthony Mantova: Whoo.
Scott Hammond: You haven't earned it yet. We'll see about you. Or the, the jury's out, so that Reuben sandwich is all it took.
Scott Hammond: Cheap date.
Anthony Mantova: It really is sad, but yeah.
Scott Hammond: Basically.
Anthony Mantova: Food gets you, gets you places.
Scott Hammond: Hey, man.
Anthony Mantova: We became a grocery store, a low-level grocery store five years ago. We brought on Mantova Foods.
Scott Hammond: Oh, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Or as they say in Italy, Mantova. And so we sell incredible Italian cuisine, high-end gnocchi, great olive oils, um-
Scott Hammond: In the store, in the music store?
Anthony Mantova: In the music store.
Anthony Mantova: But-
Scott Hammond: Is it, is it put in the… I, I've been in a couple times not too long ago, but is it in the back?
Anthony Mantova: I would never, I would never, ever hide exquisite gourmet Italian cuisine. It's right up front by the front counter where I can point at it and say,
Anthony Mantova: "By the way-
Scott Hammond: Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … get some pasta."
Scott Hammond: I'm pretty embarrassed now. I probably haven't been in for a minute, but hey, that's
Scott Hammond: okay.
Anthony Mantova: But after COVID, we learned it was a good idea to be a grocery store. And so, uh, the first year that we did it in 2020, we did $10,000 of food sales-
Scott Hammond: Wow
Anthony Mantova: … which blew my mind. I thought it was just gonna be a fun thing. "Hey, this Mantova Foods is the same as my last name. Uh, I'll just roll with that."
Scott Hammond: So it is all branded?
Anthony Mantova: This is all branded.
Scott Hammond: Oh.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, Mantova Brothers in 1905 started a food company.
Scott Hammond: In Italy?
Anthony Mantova: In Italy.
Scott Hammond: Is that where you ship from?
Anthony Mantova: And that's where we ship from.
Scott Hammond: So that's-
Anthony Mantova: That's where we get it
Scott Hammond: … not via Amer- well, I guess it goes via America.
Anthony Mantova: It sits in Illinois for a while, but it is direct from Italy. And it's the European food standards.
Scott Hammond: Oh.
Anthony Mantova: So there's no artificial colors, no artificial flavors.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: It's real food, which I'm a big fan of.
Scott Hammond: It's, yeah, right.
Anthony Mantova: You know?
Scott Hammond: I, me too.
Anthony Mantova: It's kind of a controversy now.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: But, uh, real food is-
Scott Hammond: Real food
Anthony Mantova: … the best way to go. I know so many people that are getting older, and their health isn't there because they don't eat right, right?
Scott Hammond: Geez.
Anthony Mantova: I'm not gonna get on that soapbox, but-
Scott Hammond: Wow. It's true, man
Anthony Mantova: … it's for my own health too. It saves me so many trips to the grocery store. I can just walk out in front of my counter and grab a bag of my own pasta.
Scott Hammond: It's gnocchi for dinner.
Anthony Mantova: And gnocchi's a beautiful thing.
Scott Hammond: Oh, man. It's so good.
Anthony Mantova: And never expires. I mean, uh, we, we pull it by the expiration date, which is 10
Anthony Mantova: months.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: But everything, this is, this was why we, the family did it.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I am going somewhere with this. Scott's really worried that I'm just gonna go on this food rampage. But where I'm going is the reason it worked out was any food that expires, the family buys. There's zero waste.
Scott Hammond: Oh, that's cool.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. So I've got probably 40 bags of gnocchi at home that didn't get sold
Anthony Mantova: on time.
Scott Hammond: Shrek technically expires, but never really expires.
Anthony Mantova: No, it's freeze-dried. It's good for a long time.
Scott Hammond: Where's it gonna go? Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: It's gonna go in my belly eventually.
Scott Hammond: I always get in trouble for eating the dated stuff at home. It's never… This isn't bad.
Anthony Mantova: People are weird about that. Some people will go crazy-
Scott Hammond: Religious
Anthony Mantova: … if they look at a label, and it's because they're just programmed to think a
Anthony Mantova: certain way.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: And if-
Scott Hammond: It's not bad
Anthony Mantova: … it's, it's not bad.
Scott Hammond: Does it smell and taste good? I think it's good.
Anthony Mantova: It is good.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Arguably, you might lose a little flavor. But, uh, yeah, it's a, it's a win-win to, uh, to-
Scott Hammond: So we had a, uh, a pre-wedding party at our house, and we, we roasted, roasted up about a dozen chickens in the oven.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, incredible.
Scott Hammond: And somehow, I don't know how this happened, frankly, 'cause there was a lot of people involved, um, they were there the next morning, you know,
Scott Hammond: cold. And my daughter goes, "I think these would be fine. They, they, they smell
Scott Hammond: great."
Anthony Mantova: They were left out all night?
Scott Hammond: In the oven.
Anthony Mantova: Ooh.
Scott Hammond: And Joanie goes, "Clea, that-
Anthony Mantova: No.
Scott Hammond: In a million years, you're not touching those."
Anthony Mantova: No, that's different. You don't eat that.
Scott Hammond: They're just… That's just death.
Anthony Mantova: That's a bad idea.
Scott Hammond: Yeah, don't.
Anthony Mantova: You have a re- you have a really bad time doing that.
Scott Hammond: That's a really bad…
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: That is not a good time.
Anthony Mantova: Audience, please use discretion on this. Please don't just take what we're saying and just eat anything expired. You know, make sure it's safe first.
Scott Hammond: Right. Yeah. Don't listen to us.
Anthony Mantova: You know, a little disclaimer there.
Scott Hammond: But, uh, whatever.
Anthony Mantova: I don't wanna get sued.
Scott Hammond: It's a fr- it's a free world. Do what you want, man.
Scott Hammond: Um, so Old Town, Eureka.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: We got a lot of history here.
Anthony Mantova: Yes, we do.
Scott Hammond: Um, and we'll go back into Russ, and, uh, we'll move forward from there, but-
Anthony Mantova: Sure
Scott Hammond: … um, you're in the part of town which… You know, I saw some photos of the '60s even. It was, it was… Old Town s- it sucked, man. It was still pretty rough, right? Then they got all that re- retro money, and they-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … they fixed it up in the, uh, what, early '70s maybe.
Anthony Mantova: Well, here's the thing. I'm in my 40s. I wasn't even around in the '60s.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: I have to lean on-
Scott Hammond: Stories
Anthony Mantova: … well, I have to lean on the wisened, seasoned citizens like yourself to keep me on track for how things were in the
Anthony Mantova: '60s.
Scott Hammond: I'm here for you.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Thank you for that.
Scott Hammond: But I, I came in '78 from, uh, San Diego. What do I know?
Anthony Mantova: Oh, okay.
Anthony Mantova: So-
Scott Hammond: But I did pay attention
Anthony Mantova: … you're, you're a newbie. You're not, you're, you're not 100% Humboldt.
Anthony Mantova: You, you're-
Scott Hammond: No, I'm-
Anthony Mantova: … 78% Humboldt
Scott Hammond: … I'm 100% Iowa.
Anthony Mantova: Okay. Incredible.
Scott Hammond: It's all here in my mem- oh, wait.
Anthony Mantova: No, it's, um, it's, it's, it's interesting because obviously, on the one hand, people are telling me, they're always asking me, "How are things going down there?"
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And it's a very open-ended question with a very direct expectation of what I'm going
Anthony Mantova: to say.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: But anywhere you live, there's good, bad, and ugly, and you learn it-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … when you're in that environment, and you deal with it.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: Obviously, I've tried to deal with it in a few different ways over the last few
Anthony Mantova: years.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: But when we first… Where I'm going with this is when we first took over, I had such bigger problems with the criminal element, let's just
Anthony Mantova: say-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … than I do today.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Because there are things that people just have forgotten about. Right out front of the store in the morning at 6:00 AM, 7:00 AM, 8:00 AM, I called them drug buses. When we first took over, there'd be these, uh, vans that would just pull up in front of the store, and literally like a taco truck, they would just hand the drugs out the window.
Scott Hammond: What?
Anthony Mantova: And they… Yeah.
Scott Hammond: For free?
Anthony Mantova: Well, I don't think so.
Scott Hammond: Uh-huh.
Anthony Mantova: I think there was some kind of illicit financial arrangement.
Scott Hammond: It's the ice cream man.
Anthony Mantova: But I had to work with, like, uh, Officer Goodale. You remember him. I had to work with some of the police to get those drug buses just moved down the street. Obviously, everybody knows they're gonna do business, but you can't do it in front of a family store. You can't do it in front of a family-friendly store where-
Scott Hammond: Not okay
Anthony Mantova: … kids are going in for music lessons. They can't do that. So we got the drug buses moved, and it took quite a while to get those buses moved.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: That's way worse than what I'm dealing with now.
Scott Hammond: Oh, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: You know what I mean?
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And Eureka PD, I think, has come a long way in some respects. They've got staff that really know how to, uh, work with, uh, some of the worst of the criminal drug addicts and keep them moving.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: So we're happy about that. There are good things to point to. There is progress.
Scott Hammond: Sure.
Anthony Mantova: But on the other hand, is the problem getting worse with the homeless? Absolutely, yes.
Scott Hammond: I think I've seen it, yeah, downtown.
Anthony Mantova: With the numbers.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. It's, uh, and they're talking about it at City Council Chambers, and so it's r- it's, it's kind of re, um-
Anthony Mantova: Well, the City Council came and decided to make the, uh, outdoor camping a misdemeanor. They can't even agree on that, and it's like you're not going to convince anybody to stop their, their illicit camping-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … if you can't even give them a misdemeanor offense.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: Anything less than that is just a, "Hey, buddy, move on."
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: And, "Hey, buddy, moves on," are okay, but not like this. There's no, um, there's no triage.
Anthony Mantova: There's no-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … uh, like John Shelter wants to do. There's no going in there and actually addressing, "Hey, here's your criminal drug addicts. Here's your mentally ill, and then here's your little group that really could just go talk to Brian at the Rescue Mission and get help."
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: Nobody will produce the unique solutions each of the three groups
Anthony Mantova: needs.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: Not that you're here to talk with me about that.
Scott Hammond: No, absolutely, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: But it's easy to go down these, uh-
Scott Hammond: No, it's a, it's-
Anthony Mantova: … topics
Scott Hammond: … it's a great topic 'cause I, um-
Anthony Mantova: Well, it affects everybody.
Scott Hammond: Well, it, it's one of those-
Anthony Mantova: Especially me
Scott Hammond: … it's one of th- those, like the abortion issue or gun control or homelessness or healthcare. It's like we all, we all get it. It's all an issue. You get it 'cause you're right in the, right in the-
Anthony Mantova: Well-
Scott Hammond: You're kind of in, a little bit in the heart of it.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: But, uh, I love the way that you creatively dealt with it. You've, you, you, you, um… My perception is that you shoo people along and, "Hey, this is, there's kids here. You, you go." Victor Green used to do it at In-N-Out Burger.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: He's really good.
Anthony Mantova: Was he?
Scott Hammond: He's a great guy. He's the first mayor of, uh, Arcade, and now he's my age.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, interesting.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Okay.
Scott Hammond: He's 59. It's crazy.
Anthony Mantova: Well, if anybody wants to know, I wrote a book on it, available on Amazon.
Scott Hammond: Really?
Anthony Mantova: It's called The Merchant Defense Course.
Scott Hammond: Oh, really?
Anthony Mantova: And it's r- very-
Scott Hammond: Talk to me
Anthony Mantova: … it's very straightforward. It's a great book. Uh, and basically what it is, is it's for merchants like myself.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: It has sold, uh, not hundreds of copies because-
Scott Hammond: Not hundreds
Anthony Mantova: … not very many people that are actually gonna buy this. But what's special about the book is if you're running a business and you need to deal with the criminal drug addicts-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … the homeless, which are two different things, it actually breaks down what you can legally do.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And it takes what you can do and breaks it into three functions.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Policy.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Written… Uh, I'm sorry. Policy, uh, physical-
Anthony Mantova: And verbal
Scott Hammond: Hmm
Anthony Mantova: Tricks, strategies, things that work-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … to humanely deal with the problem.
Scott Hammond: That's cool.
Anthony Mantova: And I map it out. I go step by step.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, because I've, I've put in the work, and I started working on this book in
Anthony Mantova: 2016.
Scott Hammond: Wow. 10 years ago.
Anthony Mantova: 10 years ago.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And I just add little bits to it, and I'm still working on it, but there is an edition that's out available, 'cause I wanted to get it out there. It all started when Eureka Police, one of them said to me, "Hey, you've got all of these tricks for keeping them out of your store-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … and, and doing it peacefully."
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: "Okay. Can you just put it in writing and teach other merchants?"
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: And that's what sparked it. It was actually the EPD. Um, and so I just started working on it, and now it's available. And there will be another edition coming, and I'm hoping to add, like, 75
Anthony Mantova: pages to it-
Scott Hammond: Love it
Anthony Mantova: … 'cause I've got new ideas, and I wanna… Some of it just needs a little bit more description. But that is available on, uh, Amazon Kindle.
Scott Hammond: Really?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: So printed copies.
Anthony Mantova: No, it's a, a e-copy-
Scott Hammond: It's an e-copy
Anthony Mantova: … at this point.
Scott Hammond: Okay.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Uh, to do… They need more pages. They need a little bit different layout to do paperback, and that's gonna be next.
Scott Hammond: It's called KDP Press. They have their own-
Anthony Mantova: That's right
Scott Hammond: … division.
Anthony Mantova: That's exactly right.
Scott Hammond: That's how I print- th- that's how I printed this one.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Which is, uh, which was their old WordPress-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, very cool
Scott Hammond: … uh, format.
Anthony Mantova: I remember when that book came out.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: You sold, uh, you actually sold a lot of copies.
Scott Hammond: I think dozens.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: I r- I remember my first bad review, and I, I tell him, I said, "Jacob, what, what do I do?" And he goes, "You got nine good ones, great ones. You got one bad one. That's good, 'cause you want it to… You want a 4.9. You don't want a 5.0."
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: "'Cause otherwise it's BS."
Anthony Mantova: So many marketing firms pay for reviews.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And everyone kind of instinctively knows it, I think.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: So you do need a few black eyes, uh-
Scott Hammond: Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … uh, so to say. But, um, how do you do with reviews? Does it bother you? Does it, uh, talk to your soul, or does it bounce off you?
Scott Hammond: Um, I think I'm kind of a review wimp. I, I, I don't-
Anthony Mantova: Really?
Scott Hammond: … I don't like a bad review. Uh, what it really pisses me off is the lying sack of crap
Scott Hammond: review that-
Anthony Mantova: Hmm
Scott Hammond: … I don't know this person.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: They live in Redding. We've never done business. We have tr- track records for 100 years of, of business, you know, people that we've insured, uh, at, uh, you know, Ware Insurance. And it's really crazy, because that's just a freaking lie. And you know, and, and Yelp is the, the chief culprit of social media of, of propagating,
Scott Hammond: um, I guess poopheads and, and trolls and people that somehow get their jollies from ripping on your business.
Anthony Mantova: The best thing that you can do to build that muscle of really not caring-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … is to run for office. I've been wanting you to run-
Scott Hammond: Hmm
Anthony Mantova: … for some office in Eureka for-
Scott Hammond: Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … a long, long time. And I even, uh, I think I talked to one of your coworkers, uh-
Scott Hammond: But I live in McKinleyville. I can't do this. But I could move.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, you could run for county sup. You'd be a great county sup. You'd be fantastic.
Scott Hammond: I'll run against what's-her-name.
Anthony Mantova: You watch how quick this video is gonna get canceled.
Scott Hammond: Is Mary, is it Mary Burke? Is that her name? She's running. Actually, I, I-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, I heard that, yeah
Scott Hammond: … we're talking about having her as a guest.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, that'd be great.
Scott Hammond: Let's just make it a debate.
Anthony Mantova: Great. All for it.
Scott Hammond: Just kidding. No, I wouldn't do that.
Anthony Mantova: No, you'd be fantastic. You really would.
Scott Hammond: Thank you. I just, uh, it'd probably kill me, but-
Anthony Mantova: I would watch every debate you'd do, and we would laugh and scrap, and maybe sometimes we'd even turn the sound on.
Scott Hammond: Hilarious, yeah. No, that would be great. What happened to all Scott's hair? It's so weird. I used to know when he had hair. So yeah, uh, history, so Old Town, Eureka's got this 200 years, well, 150 years of history.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Your ti- your part of town. Wasn't there, um, uh, is there still an art studio upstairs, Anthony's?
Anthony Mantova: Yes, there's still an art studio. Uh, the incredible Augustus is up there.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And sometimes he's very loud because he's just passionate about his painting. You'll hear things flying and, uh-
Scott Hammond: Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … I don't know what's going on up there, but he does incredible work-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … if you're into that kind of art. Uh, and it's not just him. I think there's five or six art studios up there.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: And, uh, there've been a whole bunch of different artists up there over the years.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And we actually rent, um, three different sections of the building.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And so our warehouse, um, is by the stairwell back there. And so we hear, we hear people running up and running back down.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: It's very busy-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … especially as you get close to Arts Alive, which is still a thing.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, Arts Alive is, uh, kinda like their, um, their big payday, you know, because the public can come up the stairs.
Scott Hammond: Check it out.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, at least they used to be able to.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I haven't been to one in a while. But the public used to be able to go up there, hope I'm still right about that, and see the art and buy it and-
Scott Hammond: Wow
Anthony Mantova: … help pay, help pay the rent, you know?
Scott Hammond: Yeah, pay the rent.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, so.
Scott Hammond: Who, who owns that building?
Anthony Mantova: Uh, Kathleen Krause.
Scott Hammond: Krause.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: I know that name.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Is Eliz- Elizabeth Beringer, was that her name? Uh, that did the wire sculptures, the horse, giant horse.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Remember her?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, I do, vaguely.
Scott Hammond: I think she may, she may have maybe gone, but I, she-
Anthony Mantova: I haven't thought of her, that name in a long time.
Scott Hammond: Super good artist.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, yeah. We've, we've had some real talent come through.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: We really have. And then that's one thing that, uh, if anybody will just, um, I get a lot of people looking for jobs.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: A lot of people looking for work, not just now, but all the time. Uh, but it's definitely ramped up. And if I get a clue that they've got an artisanal ability that they can actually
Anthony Mantova: make things-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … there are s- it, the water's warm right now to jump into music re- retail creation.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: There are so many different products that locals could make-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … that I would buy. And some of these things, like hand pans, we need somebody to make, you know, the big, they look like a UFO and you, you, you, you, you beat on them.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Hand pans. Um, that, those can sell for 2 to
Anthony Mantova: $8,000.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And for a few years now, I've just been looking for somebody locally to make them.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Each one's about 40 hours of work to, to build.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: So it's not, you know, it's, it's, it's work. But it's like there's so many things that locals could be building.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: Now, you don't just have to rely on a job. There are so many ways to make money. It's ridiculous.
Scott Hammond: How about the guys up in Arcata that make, uh, xylophones?
Scott Hammond: The, um-
Anthony Mantova: Marimba one?
Scott Hammond: Yeah, marimba.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, they're fantastic.
Scott Hammond: Wait, they're making marimbas.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: But they could make a hand pan.
Anthony Mantova: They could. Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Do you know Steve Cole, one of the owners?
Anthony Mantova: I've heard the name.
Scott Hammond: He's-
Anthony Mantova: I don't think I've met him.
Scott Hammond: He's partners with, uh, I think Ron or…
Anthony Mantova: Very cool.
Scott Hammond: I don't know if you know those guys. He-
Anthony Mantova: No
Scott Hammond: … Steve actually started Yakima-
Anthony Mantova: Oh
Scott Hammond: … and Adventure's Edge. He's Cocunat.
Scott Hammond: He's-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, very cool
Scott Hammond: … Steve Cole, shout out. What's up, Steve? So, uh, you're, uh-
Anthony Mantova: There's a lot of people I know by face, but I don't have all the names down.
Scott Hammond: So you're right next to the mission, so Brian and the crew.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Brian g- uh, moved in there after we took over, and Brian's been an incredible partner. He really has.
Scott Hammond: He's a good man.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Brian Hall. Hot, shout out to Brian.
Anthony Mantova: Yep, Brian's legit. Yeah. Does a lot of really good work down there.
Scott Hammond: Good, good guy, man. Really big, deep respect for those guys. So let's go back to Russ. So Russ was the former, uh, grand poobah.
Anthony Mantova: That's right.
Scott Hammond: And, uh, funny story about Russ, uh, when I worked in newspaper… Remember this thing called a newspaper?
Anthony Mantova: Uh, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Where it was made out of paper.
Anthony Mantova: I remember those, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Nick, do you recall that? Nick's got his monitor where I can't see him now, so he's, uh, I'm- the- my fourth, fifth wall is gone.
Anthony Mantova: Do you let people know that he sleeps back there?
Scott Hammond: I don't say a thing.
Anthony Mantova: He's asleep right now.
Scott Hammond: Is he? No way.
Anthony Mantova: I hope he's recording. I don't even know if he's recording.
Scott Hammond: Oh, good god, Nick.
Anthony Mantova: Okay.
Scott Hammond: So, uh, in the newspaper days, uh, Russ would do a little one, one column by six-inch ad, and so would Brooks up at Wildwood Music in Arcata, which is top of the bay in
Scott Hammond: Arcata.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. I think I know where it's at.
Scott Hammond: You hang out with those guys, right?
Anthony Mantova: Uh, I go in once in a while.
Scott Hammond: Is Sean still around?
Anthony Mantova: It's been a long time.
Scott Hammond: Or did he-
Anthony Mantova: I, I think it's, uh, Errol, Errol running the place now.
Scott Hammond: It's Errol, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Remember Sean?
Anthony Mantova: No.
Scott Hammond: Oh. Mike Matias.
Anthony Mantova: Mm-mm.
Scott Hammond: Anyway, you remember Brooks Otis.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Anyway, Brooks, um, he'd have a, you know, 10 Martin guitar. He had very… He would cram this ad.
Anthony Mantova: Sure.
Scott Hammond: And Russ would do these creative things like, I don't, you know, just weird, you know, t- five words in this one column, and it got him… And he'd do a new one every week.
Scott Hammond: He'd, he'd-
Anthony Mantova: Really?
Scott Hammond: … and he'd just pay… It's cheap ad.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: But he would do this, rather than list instruments, he would do this other esoteric Zen campaign, you know, quotes, cool quotes.
Anthony Mantova: Interesting.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And that worked?
Scott Hammond: It, I think it worked good, yeah. He stayed with it. It was, you know, it was cheap enough, so.
Anthony Mantova: See, my problem is I don't have the creative ability to do that. I'm so literal.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: The most literal guy you'll ever know is me. And so it's hard for me to write ads that are creative like that.
Scott Hammond: Mm.
Anthony Mantova: My ads are incredibly boring.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. So speaking of your dad, um, Li- it's Lindy,
Scott Hammond: right?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, Lindy. Don't call him Cindy.
Scott Hammond: I, I, I wouldn't do that. Um, I and I wanna talk about guests that have come through the store, but before I do
Scott Hammond: that-
Anthony Mantova: Sure
Scott Hammond: … if you're just joining us, this is the pregnant pause break.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: If you're just joining us, it's, uh, me, Scott Hammond, with 100% Humboldt here at Humboldt County, California, with my new best friend, the man, the myth, the legend, the great Anthony Mantova. And he is, um, he is my guest, and we're talking about his, uh, experience in Eureka in Old Town at Two Street Music, and, uh, former owners and moving forward to your dad. So your dad's musical accordion legend, uh, and
Scott Hammond: DJ, right?
Anthony Mantova: He certainly is. Yeah, he's incredible.
Scott Hammond: Kids, kids radio DJ for a minute?
Anthony Mantova: Um,
Anthony Mantova: yeah. N- news guy, you know?
Scott Hammond: He was the news. He read news.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, reading the news, 'cause, you know, DJ is a little different thing. DJ, you're doing music beds, and you're, uh, doing the weather and all this other
Anthony Mantova: stuff-
Scott Hammond: Sure
Anthony Mantova: … in, in the old radio thing. No, I wouldn't call him a DJ. News anchor, so he's getting-
Scott Hammond: He's a news anchor.
Anthony Mantova: Yep. Uh, I, I did it first in 2002,
Anthony Mantova: I think. Uh-
Scott Hammond: That's right. I think I remember that
Anthony Mantova: … doing the summer job kinda thing, and, uh, uh, Hugo, uh, hired me,
Anthony Mantova: you know?
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Hugo was incredible.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And Hugo and Brian and, um, I did that for a little while, and then I went off to college. And at the time, there was a lot of turmoil in our family because, um, eh, no small part due to Canadian tariffs, the milk business was not doing so hot, and so we
Anthony Mantova: sold-
Scott Hammond: You guys dairy people?
Anthony Mantova: We were dairy people.
Scott Hammond: I didn't even know this.
Anthony Mantova: That's-
Scott Hammond: Tell me, t- where's the farm?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, that's part of why we work so hard. Um, the family is based in Carlotta. Uh, it's actually Hydesville, California-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … right there by Jugger Creek.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm. Sure.
Anthony Mantova: And, um, I forget the name of the guy, but the guy that originally founded it as a farm was not a Mantova. He was an eccentric millionaire in the year 1900, and there has been some interesting research on the guy. But he, uh, came over from wherever he came from, and he invested a ton of money in our neck of the woods. And so our old barns have these old advanced pulley systems that were state-of-the-art for their time. And because redwood was super-duper cheap and everywhere, these incredible barns that we have on the property were that old growth redwood.
Scott Hammond: Perfect.
Anthony Mantova: 'Cause back then nobody was hugging trees. There was no forest maintenance or anything.
Scott Hammond: Sure.
Anthony Mantova: If there was a tree, it was going to be turned into a table or a barn or something. And so, um, you know, incredible-
Scott Hammond: Or a, or a home. Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … or a home, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, and so there's some incredible buildings out there that were state-of-the-art for their time, and they're still standing to this day.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: We don't know what the pulleys and things do because he showed up in a rush, built all this stuff, and then he disappeared in a rush. He was a bulb farmer, and I still don't think anybody knows where he went or why-
Scott Hammond: Huh
Anthony Mantova: … but he went away. And Mantovas, uh, were highlighted recently at the Clark Museum, uh, during the Prohibition
Anthony Mantova: era.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, one or two of my, uh, family from back then might have been making too much wine, going past the wine limits-
Scott Hammond: Huh
Anthony Mantova: … had a rough time in Eureka and moved to Hydesville and took over
Anthony Mantova: that spot.
Scott Hammond: Interesting. Okay.
Anthony Mantova: And that's kinda where the family has been ever since.
Scott Hammond: This would be Lin- Lindy's dad, your grandpa?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. His, um, his grandpa, um, actually, uh, I'm third generation, so it would be, um, his grandpa was involved. He was born in '22, I think.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: So it would be his relatives that were, um, part of, um, leaving Eureka during the Prohibition era thing.
Scott Hammond: Got it.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: So he was too young to really be involved in that. But there, what people don't realize about Prohibition is it's not as if it w- alcohol was illegal, and then it became legal, and everything was fine. No. When you make a big change f- by amendment at the federal level-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … all of the state and na- all the state and local, uh, rules don't just go
Anthony Mantova: away.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: It takes time. And so-
Scott Hammond: Right
Anthony Mantova: … my family basically got, um, treated pretty roughly by the laws that were still on the books.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: That's not cool. And so I, I kinda like the idea that now, 100 years later, whatever, we're back.
Scott Hammond: We made the comeback. Took us a bit.
Anthony Mantova: And, uh, we made a comeback. Took a little while.
Scott Hammond: How long was Prohibition? Any idea? It wasn't a full 10 years or anything.
Anthony Mantova: No, but it was long enough to mess up the country.
Scott Hammond: In the '20s. Early, late '20s maybe.
Anthony Mantova: Um,
Anthony Mantova: oh, wow.
Scott Hammond: Nick will look it up.
Anthony Mantova: Jeopardy here. I don't-
Scott Hammond: Jeopardy, yeah
Anthony Mantova: … I don't remember. It's been too long.
Scott Hammond: Yeah, but all the, all the gin run, gin …
Scott Hammond: joints and-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: All the-
Anthony Mantova: All the speakeasies and all that stuff.
Scott Hammond: And all the-
Anthony Mantova: Incredible bit of history
Scott Hammond: … and all the South, man. They made all the white lightning stuff.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: That's absolutely true.
Scott Hammond: What's up, y'all?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Shout out to the South. Hey, so, um, tell me more about, uh, who's wandered into the music store over the years that's interesting that would be of note or Leonardo DiCaprio when he's-
Anthony Mantova: No
Scott Hammond: … making a movie or-
Anthony Mantova: We have, we have had a few A-listers.
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: People that were playing or just traveling?
Anthony Mantova: No, no, m- u- always traveling.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, I didn't, I didn't know you were gonna ask this. This is one of those things, it's not like it's a big secret or anything, but I, I don't like to give the artist names.
Scott Hammond: Okay.
Anthony Mantova: Because it's like you're either… There are some places where artists go and they just get hassled because they know they can't just go buy a pack of strings.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: Instead, "Oh, let me get a picture with you.
Anthony Mantova: Autograph."
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: We don't do that.
Scott Hammond: So you could reveal a name if it wasn't local, couldn't you?
Anthony Mantova: I could tell you off air.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. How about-
Anthony Mantova: But I w- I'm not gonna say it on here.
Scott Hammond: How about Captain Beefheart in Trinidad? Can, d- not, not saying… Okay. He, you know, it was interesting. He did a really terrible set on SNL, on Saturday Night Live.
Anthony Mantova: Right.
Scott Hammond: I just saw that in the history. It's like whoever cast him, like, uh, y- they went on with this crazy, loud, nutty, weird song. The Captain. He lived up in Trinidad, as I understand.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, I'm not sure.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. I'm not a-
Anthony Mantova: I met an incredible guy in Trinidad just today.
Scott Hammond: Oh.
Anthony Mantova: His name is, um, I can say this, it's, it's, um, his last name is Lockett. I just met him. Um, oh, shoot. You look up his IMDb-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … you know, his Hollywood profile-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … he did a whole bunch of scoring for, uh, for, for, for, uh, big shows, their musical, their music-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … all the way back to 1997.
Scott Hammond: That's cool.
Anthony Mantova: And I'm, I'm just, I'm blanking on his first name. I just met him. But what's really cool about this guy is he lives in Trinidad, and he is staying, and he wants to open a studio up
Anthony Mantova: to artists.
Scott Hammond: Cool.
Anthony Mantova: And he's gonna start working with locals-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … if, if it's a good fit.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And he's also, uh, gonna start guitar repair.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: And, uh, he's gonna do some light violin repair, too. And we just, uh, had a good discussion-
Scott Hammond: Up in, up in town?
Anthony Mantova: Up in Trinidad.
Scott Hammond: That's cool.
Anthony Mantova: So we had a really good discussion about what that actually looks like-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … and how much business I could send him. And we h- so far it's going really well. He's gonna be sending me some more info. But yeah, we have a world-class studio right under our nose. There's so many things like that up here.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: But he is going to get more public, and, um-
Scott Hammond: Right
Anthony Mantova: … any, uh, serious bands that aren't gonna waste his time, please call me and I'll put you in touch.
Scott Hammond: And you know Paul Beatty from The Steeple, right?
Anthony Mantova: Of course, yeah.
Scott Hammond: So Paul's tell us about that studio out, uh, out yonder in, uh, toward wherever in the hills that's supposed to-
Anthony Mantova: Do you, do you know my history with that?
Scott Hammond: Was-
Anthony Mantova: In 2021, I started a company, me and Justin, called, uh, Noble House Studios.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And it was exactly around for one year.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And I worked so dang hard to get the funding to buy that place.
Scott Hammond: Justin Hobart?
Anthony Mantova: No, no, uh, Grimaldo.
Scott Hammond: Okay.
Anthony Mantova: Um, but we worked very, i- it's not, um, there's not that much I can get into, but the fact is we worked really hard for a year to get the funding to get that place, and it would've been amazing if we had pulled
Anthony Mantova: that off.
Scott Hammond: It's a world-class studio.
Anthony Mantova: They want too much money.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: $6 million.
Scott Hammond: Is it still there?
Anthony Mantova: Give me a break, you know?
Scott Hammond: Does it still existed?
Anthony Mantova: It still exists.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: Um, I have no idea, um, what the state of it is.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: But I've been there once or twice, and it's incredible. It could have been, it really could have been something.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And it's just, uh, you know in life you try things, you know?
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, and I have failed at so many more things than I've tried, and this was one of my many failures, but, uh, I learned a ton from it, and I have zero regrets about trying.
Scott Hammond: Hey, man. And who knows?
Anthony Mantova: It would've been really cool, though.
Scott Hammond: Watch what you pray for, 'cause, you know, you might get it, and that would be
Scott Hammond: terrible.
Anthony Mantova: What's that, uh, that saying? Um, Terry used to say it, uh, "Man plans and God laughs."
Scott Hammond: That's a good one.
Anthony Mantova: It's a good classic, right?
Scott Hammond: No matter where you go, there you are.
Anthony Mantova: Mm-hmm.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Let's keep, let's keep those up.
Anthony Mantova: Exactly.
Scott Hammond: We can go back and forth all day. So, uh, let's go from, uh, your, your pedigree from school. So you went to elementary school here?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, went from, um, this is where our, I hope I'm 100% Humboldt, went to Hydesville
Anthony Mantova: Elementary-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … and then graduated to, uh, Fortuna High.
Scott Hammond: Nice.
Anthony Mantova: And then I did, uh, College of the Redwoods for one year.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And then I just needed a change, and like I said, that was a very tough time for the family. It was t- not, it, it was tough 'cause of transitions.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: You know, uh, I think the cows were all sold by the time I was 16.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: So my whole life, 16 and before, was very heavy on the dairy work. You know, people that don't know really don't know. It's like y- those cows have to get fed, calves morning
Anthony Mantova: and night.
Scott Hammond: 365.
Anthony Mantova: 365, no vacations.
Scott Hammond: Which equals 700, 800 and some odd-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … milkings.
Anthony Mantova: And without that work, noth- I don't think I could do what I do today.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: You know what I mean? But it was too much. It, it was too much, and it got to the point where by the time I was of that age, I wanted nothing to do with agriculture. I hated it. It was, I mean, I was like, "I gotta get the heck outta here." So I went to Hillsdale, Michigan, Hillsdale College.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: Incredible school. Um, it was really good for me. Uh, I was a transfer student from CR. They didn't take very many of my credits because, you know, their standard's way higher. Uh, love College of the Redwoods, but, you know.
Scott Hammond: What's Hillsdale n- I've heard of it.
Scott Hammond: It's-
Anthony Mantova: Hillsdale-
Scott Hammond: What's it known for?
Anthony Mantova: If you're looking at the map of Michigan-
Scott Hammond: Uh-huh
Anthony Mantova: … it's right there. Um-
Scott Hammond: Is it, uh, what's it, is it small Midwest liberal arts?
Anthony Mantova: It's, it's small Midwest liberal arts. It's basically the Harvard for conservative-minded people.
Scott Hammond: Okay.
Anthony Mantova: Conservative-minded people. And-
Scott Hammond: I think we had some friends whose kid go- went there.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: What, what people don't understand though, is people hear what I just said and they think, "Oh, it's al- it's, uh, there's no diversity."
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: You couldn't get more diverse, because when you go there, you do have a few liberals, but what you actually have is you have anarcho-capitalists, you have the Milton Friedman people.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: You've got the, um, the party-type Republican-type people.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: It's actually incredibly diverse, and they argue all night long.
Scott Hammond: About everything.
Anthony Mantova: And they have crazy parties, and they have a good time over there, and it's, uh, it's, it's a wild place.
Scott Hammond: Anyway.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, Animal House actually was a Hillsdale director.
Scott Hammond: Oh, really?
Anthony Mantova: The guy went to Hillsdale.
Scott Hammond: That's funny.
Anthony Mantova: So they've got that background. They got the pedigree for it. But no, it's an incredible school, incredible
Anthony Mantova: teachers.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I had Victor Davis Hanson for a teacher.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, you know him. He's an incredible historian on Greek stuff.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: But, uh, I was a political science major-
Scott Hammond: Cool
Anthony Mantova: … and I was a music… I might as well, I was a classics minor, um, uh, with a focus on Latin, and then, uh, I might as well have been a music minor 'cause I was always in the music building. You know, I've always been-
Scott Hammond: Doing music stuff
Anthony Mantova: … a music kid, you know? Tenor sax was my instrument
Scott Hammond: All those conservative musicians.
Anthony Mantova: Yep, yep, we're out there.
Scott Hammond: Yeah, I-
Anthony Mantova: But going to a place like that, you have to defend your point of view.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: So it's like, and I find myself doing that now as an adult. There, it's not an echo chamber is my point.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: You're challenged on everything. You really are.
Scott Hammond: Good. And we should be.
Anthony Mantova: You should be. That's, yeah.
Scott Hammond: Why not? And it, and that's a far cry from, uh, the division that we, uh, give a lot of press to, and I d- I really, uh… I just decided in, on this show, hey, we're all divided. N- you know what? We're, there's some division, but we're not.
Anthony Mantova: No.
Scott Hammond: Fund- fundamentally we, um, I think there's goodwill among men and women.
Scott Hammond: And, uh-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, there is
Scott Hammond: … I've watched it. I mean, we went to Boise, Idaho, I've traveled. I mean, if somebody's kid falls, I mean, everybody's hel- I mean, everybody wants to help. Um-
Anthony Mantova: You know humanity when you see it.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: You know?
Scott Hammond: And it's not missed on me, and I think if you're looking for it, you're gonna see it. And I think that, um, that myth of, hey, yeah, we're d- we're done, we're done for, and it's, uh, that's just BS.
Anthony Mantova: It's just noise. You know, ev- everyone needs to edit themselves though.
Anthony Mantova: Like, uh, I have things that I do to edit myself, uh, to make sure that I don't get locked in an echo chamber.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I turned off mass media years ago.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I called it, uh, deprogramming, a detox, media detox.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, I did that, and it was one of the best things ever.
Scott Hammond: Good for you.
Anthony Mantova: I consume so little media. Like, 1% of my day is media.
Scott Hammond: Cool.
Anthony Mantova: That's-
Scott Hammond: Including social media?
Anthony Mantova: Incl- well, social media, y- yes, actually. I do very little Instagram anymore-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … but that's more recent.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Because I'm, I have this goal, by the time I'm your age, I wanna have 1,000 different sources of income. This is a real goal of mine.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: 1,000 different sources. Well, sadly, that involves social media. So- … there's certain apps I use that make money-
Scott Hammond: Sure
Anthony Mantova: … and, um, I learn them, and my goal is to have 1,000 different incomes, and that in- definitely involves quite a few different apps that, um, that make me
Anthony Mantova: money.
Scott Hammond: It sounds like a lot-
Anthony Mantova: I'm always making money
Scott Hammond: … it sounds like a lot of money.
Anthony Mantova: Well, it, it-
Scott Hammond: It could be
Anthony Mantova: … it dribbles in here and there. There might be something that I get started that might be a few pennies a day.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Then there might be some other things that are the occasional $20 burst.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: But my, uh, my way of looking at it is I'm staying in California, I'm staying here where things are tricky-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … and, um, anything can happen. Every day is different. You know, um, when I go to work, it's not your regular job. Anything can happen. Uh, to give you an idea, I can have three phone calls at once, I can have two different trade deals, and I can have one person that just wants to buy strings and talk about strings, and then I can have a criminal drug addict come in and want to go play guitars and his hands are full of, um, you
Anthony Mantova: know, um-
Scott Hammond: Whatever
Anthony Mantova: … whatever.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I have to deal with all that at once.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: All the time. And, um, it bounces off of me because I have that muscle. I've g- I put in the work.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I do it every day. And so my point is, because I've really come to learn just how every day is a gift-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … every day you wake up is a gift-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … because I know that, and I know it can be taken away very quickly, I wanna have as many different sources of income as possible. And anybody that, um, when people come in, I ask, "How was your day?" And they say, "Oh, same old, same old." I'm looking at them, I'm like, "How?"
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: There's so much to do.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: How can it be same old, same old? There's so many ways to make money, and if you're creative, there's so many creative things you can do too.
Scott Hammond: And take care of people.
Anthony Mantova: Yep. That's a really good, really good thing, and I do that a lot.
Scott Hammond: Mm.
Anthony Mantova: I'm always trying to identify what people are trying to do and help them out. A lot of the people that are coming in to look for jobs, this is the typical conversation. "Hey, are you hiring?" "No, not now. What do you wanna do?" 'Cause in my mind I'm thinking maybe I can find them some
Anthony Mantova: employment.
Scott Hammond: Good for you.
Anthony Mantova: And then they look at you, I do this all the time, then they look at you and they say, "I'll do anything." Well, the problem is, I'll say, "If you can't think of anything, I can't think of anything." So then we talk a little bit about what they actually wanna do.
Scott Hammond: It's a BNI thing. I wanna be a brain surgeon.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. And, uh, right. And so it's like I'm always trying to find people jobs and help people, um, 'cause that's what, that's what you should do.
Scott Hammond: It's the referral thing. I love it. And that, that hearkens back to BNI business networking internet.
Anthony Mantova: Which started with that Reuben sandwich.
Scott Hammond: With the Re-
Anthony Mantova: You know?
Scott Hammond: The Reuben. The famous Reuben. So you went to Hillsdale, then came back home?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, I did. Uh, well, no, no, actually. I went to Hillsdale, and like a lot of people, uh, at that age, I was probably over the top, looking back. Hindsight's 20/20. I was so scared of getting locked in a career-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … because back then, um, I'm jumping around a little bit, but I was just really scared about getting locked in a career.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Which when you go to college and you graduate, the, the first thing you should do is get locked in a career to get the income so that you can pay your bills and do things. But I was a little too flighty for that. So I immediately, uh, took a job with the Leadership Institute, Morton Blackwell's firm in, in Arlington, Virginia.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And I was a field rep. I was a field rep for, um, uh, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, and, uh, Washington State.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And all that really means is a lo-
Scott Hammond: Mountain states, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. A lot of driving. And I would go to the, uh, schools and try to start trouble, try to start, uh, organizations, get, uh, find the leaders. Uh, I worked with, like, James O'Keefe, you know?
Anthony Mantova: Back-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … you know, he's very, very, um, big deal now. Uh, I didn't work with him directly in the field, but, uh, we, we knew each other and it was incredible seeing him, um, make it, you know? He's fearless. He's incredible, the work-
Scott Hammond: Remind me-
Anthony Mantova: … the work he's done
Scott Hammond: … remind me who he is, what he does.
Anthony Mantova: He started off at Rutgers University. Uh, he was a Lucky Charms kid. What he did was he-
Scott Hammond: All right
Anthony Mantova: … patented, I still don't really know how he does it. I mean, I kinda do. But he patented the hidden camera before it was mainstream.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: And so he w- he, what he did was he got a meeting with the dean of the school at Rutgers, and he formed a fake group called, um, uh, Irishmen for America or something. And basically his little group of Irishmen were, um, trying to appeal to have Lucky Charms banned from the cafeteria because it's offensive to Irish people. It was a joke. But the dean fell for it.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And it's still on YouTube. It's an incredibly funny video. He, um, guys like him, my job was to find guys like him.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Well, in reality, there's only a few guys like him.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: But I did make some great connections.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, I did a few things behind the scenes that I'm really proud of in the political sphere.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: So I did that for, uh, a term, and then I was the rep for, uh, California and, uh, Nevada.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And that term was nowhere near as successful. Um, it's way more expensive to live.
Scott Hammond: Sure.
Anthony Mantova: Um, there were some operational things, um- But, uh, then I took an office job. They hired me to, uh, work in the office in Arlington, so I went… I moved. Uh, again, it was on a whim, you know?
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: A lot of these decisions I made are very impulsive.
Scott Hammond: Is that Dallas Metroplex?
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: Is that Arlington?
Anthony Mantova: Uh, yeah. It's, um… Arlington is about… It's just outside of DC, um, so.
Scott Hammond: Oh, I'm sorry. The, the other… I, I apologize. I'm in Texas.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah. No, no. Not, not Texas.
Scott Hammond: Is that where the, is that where the Rangers play?
Anthony Mantova: Right, right. Well, I was thinking, like, Dulles Airport. No, we're, we're south of-
Scott Hammond: No, you're, you're in DC
Anthony Mantova: … or south of that.
Scott Hammond: Got it.
Anthony Mantova: I was there for, um, 2006, 2007. And then, um-
Scott Hammond: Great opportunity back east
Anthony Mantova: … huge opportunity. And, uh, I was there for about a year in the
Anthony Mantova: office.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And, um, and then I ended up working a few odd jobs, and then I finally found what if I w- if I still really wanted it-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … I found the perfect job. It was contracting with Dr. Donald Devine.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Dr. Donald Devine was Reagan's swift, terrible sword.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: He was the director of OPM, the Office of Personnel Management.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And what people don't understand is that we have fired a bunch of bureaucrats before. We've gone through this before. We went through it with Don Devine.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And he fired so many people. He fired 100,000, I believe-
Scott Hammond: Oh, geez
Anthony Mantova: … um, federal workers in the '80s.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And what Reagan told him was, "I want you to fire lots of people and make the remaining ones work harder." That was his orders.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And he did. He was so effective that in '84 they would not reconfirm
Anthony Mantova: him.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, just a little history bit. I worked for him for a year, and we taught something called the Federalist Leadership School.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Because by training, he wasn't even really an employment guy. He is a professor of-
Scott Hammond: Hmm
Anthony Mantova: … of, um, political history of, uh, not… political economics. Um, I forget the, uh… It's been 20 years since I thought of this.
Anthony Mantova: But he, uh, basically teaches a, uh… When I was working with him, he was teaching a class about, uh, leadership principles for people-
Scott Hammond: Wow
Anthony Mantova: … that wanted to get into politics. And we took it on the road. We did a few, uh, things in DC, but we, uh, we did classes in, like, Kansas.
Anthony Mantova: Um, I don't know if we made it out to California, but we did the Midwest quite a bit.
Scott Hammond: Hmm.
Anthony Mantova: A lot of the Midwest. And, um, it was just a crazy time in my life, 'cause I w- I barely had any money, and I might look at my bank account and be like, "Okay, I got 200 bucks, and I need to drive to Ohio," but I'd find a way to do it.
Scott Hammond: Nice.
Anthony Mantova: I did crazy stuff like that back then.
Scott Hammond: How many p- folks do you think Trump's fired so far?
Anthony Mantova: Not enough.
Scott Hammond: Not…
Anthony Mantova: There's so many more that need to go.
Scott Hammond: It was this-
Anthony Mantova: Look at the amount of embezzlement, the waste, fraud, and abuse.
Scott Hammond: It was… Set you up on that one.
Anthony Mantova: We're just getting started.
Scott Hammond: Do you think he's done 100,000 jobs yet?
Anthony Mantova: Probably.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: I don't know if they-
Anthony Mantova: Well, yeah, if you count the contractors that-
Scott Hammond: It would just be a number.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. I- it's at least 100,000.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: But the problem is much bigger-
Scott Hammond: Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … much bigger now.
Scott Hammond: 'Course we're a bigger nation. We're bigger everything. Um, did you know the guy that, um, lived locally? Uh, so back to Reagan.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: He got Nancy and Ron to run. Uh, he, he was a local guy, author.
Anthony Mantova: Peter, um-
Scott Hammond: Yes.
Anthony Mantova: Um, yeah. I-
Scott Hammond: Great guy. Had lunch with him a couple times-
Anthony Mantova: He's-
Scott Hammond: 'Cause you know me, I'll just have a Reuben sandwich with anybody.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah, exactly right. Hope he bought it, though, that time. You didn't buy him a sandwich, did you?
Scott Hammond: I'm pretty sure he bought lunch.
Anthony Mantova: He can afford his own sandwich.
Scott Hammond: What a great guy, man.
Anthony Mantova: He was a really good guy. He popped in, like, twice in the music store, and I got to talk to him a little bit.
Scott Hammond: Peter, um, shoot. I just met somebody-
Anthony Mantova: I have one of his books at home. I don't remember. It's been a long time.
Scott Hammond: We just met somebody that knew him, and he… Oh, uh, Bill Barnum knows him.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: And, uh-
Anthony Mantova: Well, Bill knows everybody. Bill's local royalty.
Scott Hammond: No, he does know everybody. And you and I know every other
Scott Hammond: buddy.
Anthony Mantova: That's truth.
Scott Hammond: Buddy. Hey, it's that time of the show. If you're just joining me, I'm, uh, here with my new best friend, Anthony Mantova.
Anthony Mantova: I feel like we didn't cover any local history at all.
Scott Hammond: Oh. Oh, well, maybe we'll do that.
Anthony Mantova: We're having fun with it.
Scott Hammond: Hey, well, here's, here's… We're gonna make some history.
Anthony Mantova: Good deal.
Scott Hammond: All right. Hey, on the, uh, quiz show part, where you could win a fabulous Dick Taylor Tan-
Anthony Mantova: That is a big bar
Scott Hammond: … Tanzania bar. 65% dark chocolate, folks. And you know what's cool about this? Besides getting a buzz when you eat the chocolate, a, a nice whatever that is-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … endorphin thing, um, like 140 calories. So-
Anthony Mantova: How do they do that?
Scott Hammond: I don't know how. It's just sugar and, uh-
Anthony Mantova: They're not doing that Splenda thing, are they?
Scott Hammond: No.
Anthony Mantova: Better be real sugar.
Scott Hammond: Careful. These guys are your neighbors, man. Huckleberry Flint's not gonna buy their strings anymore from you.
Anthony Mantova: I'm gonna get in big trouble.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: No, that looks really delicious.
Scott Hammond: You know-
Anthony Mantova: I like Dick Taylor
Scott Hammond: … obviously you know Dustin and, and, uh-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah
Scott Hammond: … and Adam, right?
Anthony Mantova: I forget.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Um-
Scott Hammond: You know Ray Robinson plays bass?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Shout out to Ray.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Scott Hammond: And the other guys, I should know them by first name. One guy w- works at McRay Nissan across the street, and the other guy is just
Scott Hammond: the magical-
Anthony Mantova: Hello
Scott Hammond: … it's a behind-the-scenes guitar player.
Scott Hammond: He's great.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. You gotta value guys like that. And that's like a lot of these folks. I, I, I get… I don't get the names all the time, but I remember their backstory.
Scott Hammond: Right.
Anthony Mantova: That's what I'm good at.
Scott Hammond: Hey, you. That's our joke, Joni and I.
Scott Hammond: Hey, you.
Anthony Mantova: Yep.
Scott Hammond: You're 65. I, I've met a lot of people. I'm sorry. I, I totally know who you are. I value everything about you. But heck if I know your name right now. I'd s- s… You put a gun to my head, maybe I'd get lucky, but-
Anthony Mantova: Now, you can be, uh-
Scott Hammond: It's a-
Anthony Mantova: … like old man Perry. Once you get to 100-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … or even 90, I, I would argue, once you get to 90, you can call everybody a
Anthony Mantova: kid.
Scott Hammond: Hey, kid.
Anthony Mantova: He'll do that. You know, if there's an 80-year-old in the store, he'll be like, "Hey, kid," you know?
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: But once you get to 90, you get these special privileges.
Scott Hammond: Who's old man Perry? Does he work for you?
Anthony Mantova: No. Perry, he's incredible. He's still alive. I couldn't believe it. I saw him the other day. Perry, back in the day, worked in the tax business. You know who I'm talking about. He, um, he was part of auditing Dianne Feinstein.
Anthony Mantova: That Perry.
Scott Hammond: That Perry.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. He's amazing. Amazing man. He's still alive.
Scott Hammond: Perry Mason. Perry Mason.
Anthony Mantova: He might as well be. No, he's, uh, one of the best-dressed people in Humboldt, skinny dude, but he's in his 90s now, and, uh, I wished him-
Scott Hammond: I might know him
Anthony Mantova: … a happy birthday the other day.
Scott Hammond: What's his last name?
Anthony Mantova: I knew you were gonna ask me that. I'm having trouble remembering it.
Scott Hammond: I might know. Hey, you.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: You Perry?
Anthony Mantova: I've almost got it, but it's Perry for sure, the first name.
Scott Hammond: I think I know who that might be, actually.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: He's unforgettable.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Great guy.
Scott Hammond: Unforgettable. Hey, um, let's get you a chocolate bar.
Scott Hammond: Ready?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm ready.
Scott Hammond: Question number one: You have the day off, uh, tomorrow's Friday, and you could do whatever you want with whomever you want, uh, and no expenses, uh, spared, 9:00 AM to 9:00
Scott Hammond: PM. Anthony Mantova, for 10 points, where, what do you do with your day?
Anthony Mantova: I never get a day off like that
Scott Hammond: This is your day off, so this-
Anthony Mantova: I know, I hear that
Scott Hammond: … I, you have to do we're gonna hold a gun to your head on this.
Anthony Mantova: Okay.
Scott Hammond: You have to take the day off. Actually, you have to take the question too.
Anthony Mantova: I'm gonna take the question. I won't dodge it.
Anthony Mantova: So-
Scott Hammond: Can you put your headphones on and then tell me some more musical- … people that come in?
Anthony Mantova: So, uh, I've been with my gorgeous, her name's Di. I've been with her for about seven years, almost seven years now. So obviously I'd be hanging out with her.
Scott Hammond: Sure.
Anthony Mantova: And she makes me incredible meals. I don't know if you ever go on Facebook at Humboldt Foodies, she posts her incredible meals on there every single day. And so it's so hard for us, I used to take her out fairly often.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: But now that she's really found her passion, which is cooking-
Scott Hammond: Yes
Anthony Mantova: … um, we just don't go out as much, especially with our work schedules. We moved to Southern Humboldt.
Scott Hammond: Oh.
Anthony Mantova: But to answer your question, tonight-
Scott Hammond: And you found your passions, which is eating.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. I have, and it's working well for me.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, follow me for more tips. But, uh, tonight we're actually gonna go to Gallagher's,
Anthony Mantova: and, uh-
Scott Hammond: Oh, sweet
Anthony Mantova: … they just moved, uh, back to where they belong next to me at, uh-
Scott Hammond: In Eagle House, yeah
Anthony Mantova: … on 2nd Street in Eagle House. It's great to have them back. So, uh, her and I are gonna do that. And that was actually what we would do back when we would get more days off, is we would often go to Gallagher's.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: That was one of our hangout spots.
Scott Hammond: Fish and chips.
Anthony Mantova: Fish and chips are fantastic. Uh, we like tandoori bites quite a bit.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And, um, occasionally we'll give Annie's a try too-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … once in a while. You know?
Scott Hammond: Annie's good.
Anthony Mantova: But that's about as far as we get. Uh, there's that burger place in Miranda that we're really interested in trying, but every time we get close to getting over there, something comes up. But we are gonna get there. We're gonna try that burger 'cause everybody's been raving about it. They got like 700 reviews on Google, which is very hard for a restaurant.
Scott Hammond: That's really good.
Anthony Mantova: I was really impressed by that.
Scott Hammond: For, for in remote Miranda.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: What? Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: I think it really, like 750 views I think. I think I'm right about that.
Scott Hammond: Okay.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: So-
Anthony Mantova: So I gotta try that. That's on the list
Scott Hammond: … so a, a day with your gal and a dinner out.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Now, typically if I leave during a workday, I get this shock, this weird vibration 'cause they, you know, my ankle bracelet. No, I'm just kidding. But I, um, yeah, a lot of times we'll go to Ferndale. Uh, we'll do some thrifting. We like our thrift stores, but you know, that's how we… One of the fun things we used to do was thrifting, but the problem is we bought $20,000, or I'm sorry, not $20,000. We bought 20,000 comic books.
Scott Hammond: Oh.
Anthony Mantova: She has an eBay business.
Scott Hammond: Oh.
Anthony Mantova: And so now that she's basically set for the next seven years, uh, for her eBay listing, we don't even go thrifting anymore because we don't need to buy more stuff. My office is full of comic books.
Scott Hammond: Really?
Anthony Mantova: And it's hard to move around.
Scott Hammond: Did you buy, did you buy one lot of comic books?
Anthony Mantova: We actually, yeah, it was a pallet, and it was, uh-
Scott Hammond: Crazy
Anthony Mantova: … it was not a, just a pallet, it was four pallets.
Scott Hammond: That's a lot of pallets.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. It's, it's 15… We don't even know how many. It's 15 to 20,000 comic books.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Somebody the other day asked me, they said, "How much does that weigh?" So I, I, I did the math. It's almost two tons.
Scott Hammond: Really?
Anthony Mantova: 4,000 pounds of comic books.
Scott Hammond: Is there value in that, in those pallets in terms of-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah
Scott Hammond: … like mint condition Superman?
Anthony Mantova: Well, yeah, and that's, that's the problem is you-
Scott Hammond: Batman
Anthony Mantova: … it's not like a, it's not like putting a CD on, on, on, on-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … eBay. What you have to do is you have to go and give it a full description.
Scott Hammond: Uh-huh.
Anthony Mantova: But then you also have to look for if it's a key edition, which means that like let's say it's the Luke Cage series, but it's Spider-Man's first time ever appearing and let's say that the Marvel Universe put him in Luke Cage first. They, they didn't, but let's say that they did.
Scott Hammond: Big thing.
Anthony Mantova: That one edition might be worth 300 bucks.
Scott Hammond: Go figure.
Anthony Mantova: So you can't just take a picture and post it. You have to do the work. And so we did the math the other day. It's gonna take her seven years to get them all listed.
Scott Hammond: Is that right?
Anthony Mantova: You know-
Scott Hammond: So Don Chin?
Anthony Mantova: Oh, yeah, of course.
Scott Hammond: Yes. Mr., uh-
Anthony Mantova: I used to live next to him
Scott Hammond: … Radiation, Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters.
Anthony Mantova: Yep.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Yep, yep.
Scott Hammond: What's up Don? Don Chin. Don Chin, friend of mine.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Um, no, I like that.
Anthony Mantova: He's been good.
Scott Hammond: That's, that's really cool. So comic books, wow.
Anthony Mantova: Yep.
Scott Hammond: Speaking of thrifting, uh, this is a thrift little, little item that I got. So in the Northwest, and even d- down in San Diego, the, our, our Mormon friends, the LDS folks-
Anthony Mantova: Sure
Scott Hammond: … have a, uh, chain of thrift stores that are as big as Kmarts
Scott Hammond: or bigger.
Anthony Mantova: You're talking about that, uh-
Scott Hammond: Deseret Industries.
Anthony Mantova: Oh.
Scott Hammond: D- the DI store.
Scott Hammond: And so all-
Anthony Mantova: I know about that
Scott Hammond: … all Mormon, all good Mormons actually have a, a clothing day where they take all their thrift and, and they pick these up and they take these to these, uh, stores. You get Under Armour for five bucks. Like then $200. This is an $800 shirt, mind you.
Anthony Mantova: It's funny how that works.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Um, I got a, uh, what's called a Hickey Freeman, uh, sport coat. They're 800 bucks. They're beautiful.
Anthony Mantova: Wow.
Scott Hammond: And I wanted to get one out of insurance school in Irvine, and they were 800
Scott Hammond: bucks.
Anthony Mantova: Wow.
Scott Hammond: DI up in Boise, that's why I love to go up there, besides grandkids, I, I thrift. I never admitted this to anyone before.
Anthony Mantova: Well, this is the time to confess all of your quirks.
Scott Hammond: For, for I have been-
Anthony Mantova: Everyone's listening
Scott Hammond: … for I have been quirky. Forgive me, Father. Shondala Honda. Um, and I got it for eight bucks, and I feel really good about myself.
Anthony Mantova: It's a great feeling when you win like that.
Scott Hammond: Oh, my God. You know, it just, uh, all the, all the workout garb and all the, all the stuff.
Anthony Mantova: Do you know the story about how you got that shirt on the front end though? Have you heard this?
Scott Hammond: No.
Anthony Mantova: There's an insurance guy, I believe he was in the Bay Area. He would only buy these starched collared shirts for $125 each.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: And this was like 20 years ago-
Scott Hammond: Right
Anthony Mantova: … when you were really hot on this stuff.
Scott Hammond: Ta- tailored.
Anthony Mantova: And so $125 a shirt. He wore them every day, but he would not, this is the key thing, he would not ever put them in the, uh, laundry wash. He would just give them away.
Scott Hammond: Huh.
Anthony Mantova: And the reason he did that, he spent like, I don't know what that math is, uh, $100,000 a year in shirts or something. Whatever the math is, it's not that much. $25,000 let's say just in shirts.
Scott Hammond: Sure.
Anthony Mantova: Okay. I wanna get this right. But I know that they were like $125 per shirt, but he would donate each shirt after the day's use to charity. But the reason he did it was there was no other feeling in the world that he could
Anthony Mantova: get-
Scott Hammond: To that-
Anthony Mantova: … to go sell-
Scott Hammond: Crisp
Anthony Mantova: … than to have that shirt.
Scott Hammond: Crisp.
Anthony Mantova: And then what's crazy is where does that shirt end up? It ends up with Scott Hammond-
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: … at a thrift store for $8.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Thank you. Or at the, uh, American s- Cancer Society thrift store, which is not a bad-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … thrift- thrifting, uh, experience.
Anthony Mantova: He gave a lot of people-
Scott Hammond: Shout out to Deb
Anthony Mantova: … a lot of professional clothing.
Scott Hammond: That's cool. No, I've seen some amazing stuff.
Anthony Mantova: It's weird stuff.
Scott Hammond: Hey, back to your quiz.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: So, uh, you got the day off and you're gonna go for a hike with your sweetheart. Where do you, where do you guys go for a walk?
Anthony Mantova: We used to go to Headwaters 'cause we lived close to there.
Scott Hammond: Oh, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: So we used to go there. Uh, that's a great spot. It's super easy to walk. Doesn't kill your knees.
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: I'm gonna point to it. It's, it's, it's right-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … it's right over there
Anthony Mantova: Let the people see where it is.
Scott Hammond: Yeah, it's right there.
Anthony Mantova: Back in the day, I wouldn't want you to do that-
Scott Hammond: Up Elk River
Anthony Mantova: … 'cause I want it to be a secret, but now I, I don't make it down there anymore.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, I have to always be my, by phone and stuff. But, uh, that's a great walk. Uh, obviously Patrick's Point's amazing.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Fern Canyon's amazing.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: It's been a long time since I've been up there. You can't go wrong w- with any Redwood Trail.
Anthony Mantova: Like-
Scott Hammond: You really can't
Anthony Mantova: … I can't think of one bad Redwood Trail. So that'd be my vote would be Headwaters.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Fern… It turns out Jodi just hiked Fern Canyon, and you need the permit after… Did she, did you say May, honey? I forget. So there's a, there's a permitting process now for that for the busy
Scott Hammond: season.
Anthony Mantova: Oh. Okay.
Scott Hammond: Or maybe it's after May, but she said it was-
Anthony Mantova: Why are they doing that?
Scott Hammond: 'Cause it just got crowded.
Anthony Mantova: Gotcha.
Scott Hammond: Really crazy. That's where, uh, Mr. Hamm and his wife were attacked by a mountain lion, remember?
Scott Hammond: Uh-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Remember that?
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: I actually got to meet him after-
Anthony Mantova: Oh, wow
Scott Hammond: … the attack at Starbucks. The attack wasn't at Starbucks.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Months later he was having a coffee.
Anthony Mantova: Right.
Scott Hammond: And he had the scar, like this crazy scar.
Anthony Mantova: Oh, wow. He's lucky to be alive.
Scott Hammond: And this… Oh, the, the, the, the cub peeled his head back and this, his wife grabbed a freaking pen and, and st- stabbed this, this animal until it went away.
Anthony Mantova: Wow.
Scott Hammond: And she used her shirt as a tourniquet, so when they find him and her, the, the CCC crew-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … you know, she's in her bra and they got muddle. They don't know what happened to those two.
Anthony Mantova: Of course.
Scott Hammond: But-
Anthony Mantova: Wow
Scott Hammond: … they made, they made Discovery Channels and it's a pretty good story.
Anthony Mantova: I didn't know. I mean, I knew about the attack. I didn't know it like that.
Scott Hammond: Pretty heavy, you know, pretty good story. Good Samaritan story. Um-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Wow
Scott Hammond: … there was a party that passed them by first. Anyway, I digress. Hey, question number three.
Anthony Mantova: Yes.
Scott Hammond: What, um, what, what do you like to listen to? What, what's kind of, what kind of music generally would be a semi go-to for top three or five thing genres that you would-
Anthony Mantova: I've changed so much over the years.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, and nothing that I listened to in the past… A- and I listen to everything I listened to in the past too, but I've-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … just changed musically. College, Tower of Power I discovered.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I was really into them a big time. I think I owned all their albums. Uh, certainly-
Scott Hammond: Tower of Power's good
Anthony Mantova: … the Warner Brothers, the early years, I was all about that.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, a lot of the big band stuff. Um, uh, after that, just because, um, I played a lot in, in, in bands-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … uh, I listened to a lot of jazz at that time because I was really trying to, um, get my, um, artistic, um, chops up.
Scott Hammond: Sure.
Anthony Mantova: I don't listen to jazz much anymore-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … honestly. Um, don't even listen to Tower of Power much anymore. Um, I do a lot of, uh, a lot of podcasts now that I listen
Anthony Mantova: to.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um, not a whole lot of music in my life just because I'm at the store. Uh, but what is really cool, and I should have brought some of them with me, is I'm always getting CDs from local artists.
Scott Hammond: Oh, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And, uh, uh, what's his name? Jeff Scol- Scoleri, uh, dropped me off a CD the other day, and then, uh, Steve Fox down in Shelter Cove-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … uh, his little band dropped me off a CD this morning.
Scott Hammond: That's cool.
Anthony Mantova: So I've always got local stuff to listen to.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And I am always accepting those CDs, and I, I, uh, will follow you on Spotify if you're a local artist.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: So, um, I have a really interesting list of people on there, and I like how it just randomly selects one of them, you know?
Scott Hammond: That's cool.
Anthony Mantova: So, uh, yeah, I, I'm not really, uh, on any one genre.
Scott Hammond: So there's ways to support the local guy.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. If you're doing anything local, whether it's a podcast or an artist on Spotify
Anthony Mantova: or-
Scott Hammond: I'm on it. Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … whatever, I'll watch you. Even if I'm not, like, a, a big raving fan-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … at least I'll give you the follow. You know what I mean?
Scott Hammond: I gotta watch this?
Anthony Mantova: This?
Scott Hammond: Do, do you already follow?
Anthony Mantova: Uh, I do follow-
Scott Hammond: On Spotify
Anthony Mantova: … Scott Hammond.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: You wanna see the proof?
Scott Hammond: No, I don't. I trust you complicitly.
Anthony Mantova: You just want that candy bar.
Scott Hammond: Yeah, you're really working to try to get it.
Anthony Mantova: No, I watched you, uh, I watched you talk with Fred Moore.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: I watched that one.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And then I've watched a few of your other ones too. I talked to your one with, uh, Food for People.
Scott Hammond: Oh, yeah.
Anthony Mantova: And, uh-
Scott Hammond: With David Reed and-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Great.
Anthony Mantova: It was good. It was good stuff.
Scott Hammond: Oh, very great. Fred Moore is fun. He's a great guy. You probably know Fred from way back.
Anthony Mantova: I think so.
Scott Hammond: So, uh, before we, we sign off and we're gonna talk about your legacy, what you like to be known for and remembered for-
Anthony Mantova: Wow
Scott Hammond: … so I'm preempting your commercial, your, your commercial, your, your answer. Um, it wouldn't be right to not talk about the problems that, the challenges that we're facing as not just Eureka, but Humboldt and maybe the state. Um, and what do you see, um… You know, Bill Barnum surprised me. He… It's, it's not a rosy future, dude. We're not building homes. He goes, "It's, it, it was designed to happen 30 years ago, 5,000 homes, we built two."
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: And I go, "Oh, shit." So what, uh, what, what do you see, uh, what's your optimistic, maybe pessimistic view of what are the iss- key issues and, and solutions? Uh, ladies and gentlemen, the man, the myth, the legend.
Anthony Mantova: How much time do I have?
Scott Hammond: Uh, not much.
Anthony Mantova: Okay, so we'll do the, uh, very quick version. Number one, the only thing that is holding this area together is the fact that a lot of the people who bought their homes 30 to 40 years ago in the Bay Area and LA cashed in. They sold their homes. They have buku bucks. They're coming up here. They're putting our tradesmen to work. They're putting our contractors to work. They are bringing that money with them-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … because that's all we have. Tourism is barely there. Cannabis, forget about it.
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: It's dead, right? Boom and bust.
Anthony Mantova: Boom and bust. But here's the thing, going on the optimist side, um, I'm jumping ahead, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Humboldt County is always boom and bust. It's been boom and bust from the beginning.
Scott Hammond: It's true.
Anthony Mantova: It was boom and bust in the '20s, and it's boom and bust now. It will always be boom and bust.
Scott Hammond: Great point.
Anthony Mantova: But here's the thing. People can do more with their time. They can find work. They can find ways to make money. If I can make money in my tiny bit of free time on all these different apps that are out there-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … and again, I'm happy to talk with anybody about these opportunities. I'm not soliciting myself-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … to do that, but-
Scott Hammond: Sure
Anthony Mantova: … just, uh, if you have questions about some of the apps that you can make money with right now, I'm happy to share a few and then you can go try it.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I shared one with you, you the other day.
Scott Hammond: What was it? Zoom or something?
Anthony Mantova: It was, uh, Flip.
Scott Hammond: Flip.
Anthony Mantova: I've made $115 on there since January. And I barely do much on it.
Scott Hammond: Wow.
Anthony Mantova: But my point is, there are so many ways to make money. You don't have to be a victim-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … of the rise and fall of Humboldt's economic rollercoaster.
Scott Hammond: Or any other.
Anthony Mantova: 'Cause I got n- yeah, I got news for you.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Humboldt will always be boom and bust because we're behind an, a, a, a, uh, a redwood curtain. And so-
Scott Hammond: Right
Anthony Mantova: … you know, you, you need to eventually be a big fish in a small pond and give people goods and services, and make yourself useful.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Take up space and do something good, and, uh, be positive and it'll work out for you. Don't fall for the gloom and doom stuff.
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: Good word
Anthony Mantova: … the bill, the bill's not wrong. We've abandoned our general plan. Um, the people that are in charge at City Hall, it's a disaster. Um, th- it's easy to point to that. Uh, the homeless number is going up. They still are not willing to take the homeless community and break it up into the three groups, which is criminal drug addicts, mentally ill, and those down on their luck. Each of those three groups needs a different tailored approach-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … which I cover in my book.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And I've covered on the campaign trail till I was blue in the face.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Um-
Scott Hammond: 'Cause you ran for city council, right?
Anthony Mantova: Ran for city council, tried to clean the mess up in 2018. Didn't work out, obviously. Uh, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Uh, I'm f- in fact, unfortunately, I'm right.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And the problem still hasn't really been dealt with. And here's the, here's the thing. Here's the humanity crisis that we face with the homeless. If you treat the homeless all the same-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … if you treat the criminal drug addict just like the mentally ill person, well, what's gonna happen is the criminal drug addicts, which make up about 80% of the homeless population, is criminal drug addicts. What they're gonna do is they're going to abuse the other two groups. They're gonna take all your handouts. They're gonna abuse the mentally ill. They're gonna abuse those down on their luck.
Scott Hammond: I've seen it.
Anthony Mantova: And then, yeah, and then they're going to invite their friends to come here and do
Anthony Mantova: the same.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: And that's what's happened to Humboldt. We have failed because of the housing first nonsense-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … that the current group in power is trying to push. We are so far away from solving the homelessness, it's probably not gonna happen in the next, I hate to put a time limit on it-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … the next 10 years, you're not gonna have a solution for the homeless-
Scott Hammond: Mm
Anthony Mantova: … because they're not willing to look at it. So that's one big problem. The second problem is the fact that, uh, y- there are no really good-paying jobs, and that is a problem, and that's because we let our industry die on the vine because we have people in charge that are making really bad decisions. We've taken the fishing harbor, and we had this goofy idea to have it focus on windmill assembly-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … which isn't going to work out at all. We already see the money leaving that. So now the fishing industry's been displaced. That was 100 jobs for the homeless and for people down on their luck that really relied on the fishing industry. Those jobs are gone. And then there's another 100 jobs from the pros that were in that space. Those jobs are gone-
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm
Anthony Mantova: … all because we did this head fake going into windmill production, which of course was a disaster. I was the first person to state publicly that building the offshore windmills was a disaster, and I went into
Anthony Mantova: why.
Scott Hammond: Have they, have they pulled that back already? Is, is it like a-
Anthony Mantova: Not officially, but they might as well.
Scott Hammond: It's like a now-
Anthony Mantova: The money's not coming
Scott Hammond: … yeah.
Anthony Mantova: It's a public-private partnership.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Public sort of showed up, private never did.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: Forget about it. It's over.
Scott Hammond: Mm. Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: What more do you need to know?
Scott Hammond: Fair enough, yeah. No, no, no great job.
Anthony Mantova: I can go on, but I think that's, I mean-
Scott Hammond: Those are, those are two big enough. Yeah. Wait, we're gonna stay another hour.
Anthony Mantova: And I did this without even getting political. This isn't left or right.
Scott Hammond: Yeah.
Anthony Mantova: Uh, I have so many liberal friends. I have so many conservative friends.
Scott Hammond: Mm-hmm.
Anthony Mantova: I would never choose my friendships based on political belief. That is the worst thing you can do because if you choose-
Scott Hammond: Amen
Anthony Mantova: … friends on both sides of the aisle, they'll edit you. If you're wrong on something, you can discuss it and actually-
Scott Hammond: Yeah
Anthony Mantova: … learn from people.
Scott Hammond: Imagine that.
Anthony Mantova: Imagine that, right?
Scott Hammond: Yeah. We try to do that.
Anthony Mantova: We-
Scott Hammond: Yeah. Uh, so hey, how about your legacy? What do you wanna be remembered for?
Anthony Mantova: I spend so little time thinking about that. I want my tombstone… Can I talk about my tombstone, how I want this?
Scott Hammond: Exactly.
Anthony Mantova: I don't want a tombstone. I want to be encased in resin in a really cool posture where you can see me.
Scott Hammond: Nice.
Anthony Mantova: See-through transparent resin is a thing.
Scott Hammond: O- outside of the boxes.
Anthony Mantova: I want my family to put me in a, a position that they'll like me in. Put me in the resin box, and then on holidays, just wheel me out.
Scott Hammond: There's, there's-
Anthony Mantova: And then just put me back when you're done with me
Scott Hammond: … there's Jack Dempsey.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah.
Scott Hammond: I mean Anthony.
Anthony Mantova: And as far as the tombstone, I want it to say, "He did really good stuff. He helped people. He was an okay dude."
Scott Hammond: Nice. I like that.
Anthony Mantova: I'd be good with that.
Scott Hammond: Hey, man, thanks for coming.
Anthony Mantova: Yeah. Thanks for having me.
Scott Hammond: Appreciate you.
Anthony Mantova: Would like-
Scott Hammond: Oh, oh, your, your chocolate bar.
Scott Hammond: Here
Anthony Mantova: … do I get my chocolate bar?
Scott Hammond: Ladies and gentlemen.
Scott Hammond: Hey, uh-
Anthony Mantova: Thank you, Scott
Scott Hammond: … real quick shout-out for Anthony, uh, Mantova's or Mantova's Second Street.
Scott Hammond: Real quick-
Anthony Mantova: Yeah
Scott Hammond: … how do we find you?
Anthony Mantova: Mantova's 2 Street Music. Our website is mtsmusic.com. We push through to other sales platforms, but the best thing to do is just stop by. We're there from Tuesday to Saturday, 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM. We do trade, we do services, we fix stuff. We're there for you. And just general questions, come on by.
Scott Hammond: Sweet. All right. Hey, thanks for coming. And thank you for listening. Uh, Scott Hammond, 100% Humboldt. Uh, like us on all the, uh, uh, the platforms and, uh, YouTube. Make a comment, win a chocolate bar. And, uh, we'll see you again next week. And, uh, I was gonna say like a good neighbor, but that wouldn't be appropriate.
Anthony Mantova: No, that wouldn't be, but you are a good neighbor, Scott.
Scott Hammond: Thank you, man. Thanks for coming.
Anthony Mantova: Thank you